On a special episode of “The Argument,”

On a special episode of “The Argument,” recorded on Monday in front of an audience at The Times Center in New York, David Leonhardt and Ross Douthat discuss President Trump’s response to the coronavirus crisis. Ross thinks President Trump’s underreaction makes draconian measures to slow the virus’s spread increasingly necessary. David doubts the capacity of an administration that has proved itself incompetent at virtually every turn to seize control in ways that help rather than hurt the country’s preparedness.

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Then, the columnists discuss Ross’s new book, “The Decadent Society: How We Became the Victims of Our Own Success,” and play a game of “Decadent or Not” with some internet memes.

Finally, David and Ross answer audience questions about politicians in quarantine, disagreement on college campuses and whether the coronavirus will bring down Trump.